{"id":20483,"date":"2026-02-25T18:02:29","date_gmt":"2026-02-25T10:02:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/artgardenhub.com\/?p=20483"},"modified":"2026-02-25T18:02:31","modified_gmt":"2026-02-25T10:02:31","slug":"phil-collins-opinion-on-yes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/artgardenhub.com\/?p=20483","title":{"rendered":"Phil Collins\u2019 opinion on Yes"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Phil Collins was a crucial part of\u00a0Genesis, first as a drummer and later as the band\u2019s frontman, helping to give them a commercially successful and enduring career. While Progressive Rock purists often favor the\u00a0Peter Gabriel\u00a0years, many fans appreciate both phases of the band.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Collins, whose musical tastes have always been wide-ranging, has similarly expressed mixed opinions about certain bands, including Yes, saying good and bad things about them over the years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_82_2 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"ez-toc-pull-right ez-toc-btn ez-toc-btn-xs ez-toc-btn-default ez-toc-toggle\" aria-label=\"Toggle Table of Content\"><span class=\"ez-toc-js-icon-con\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/artgardenhub.com\/?p=20483\/#What_is_Phil_Collins_opinion_on_Yes\" >What is Phil Collins\u2019 opinion on Yes<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-4' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-4'><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-4' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-4'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/artgardenhub.com\/?p=20483\/#He_continued\" >He continued:<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/artgardenhub.com\/?p=20483\/#Phil_Collins_almost_became_Yes_drummer_twice\" >Phil Collins almost became Yes\u2019 drummer twice<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-4' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-4'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/artgardenhub.com\/?p=20483\/#He_continued-2\" >He continued:<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/artgardenhub.com\/?p=20483\/#How_former_Yes_drummer_Bill_Bruford_ended_up_playing_with_Genesis\" >How former Yes drummer Bill Bruford ended up playing with Genesis<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2 id=\"what-is-phil-collins-opinion-on-yes\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"What_is_Phil_Collins_opinion_on_Yes\"><\/span>What is Phil Collins\u2019 opinion on Yes<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI was a big early Yes fan, less so, even though I like the guys in the band, I didn\u2019t relate to a lot of their music, after the first two or three albums. I mean, the \u2018Yes\u2019 (1969) album was great but I didn\u2019t really after that go for too much of it. Jethro Tull, ELP, not for me musically. Floyd, I was never a big Floyd fan. I probably became a Floyd fan in later years than I was at the time, even though I saw them at the Marquee with \u2018Arnold Layne\u2019 (song), you know.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201c(So) I was aware of what they were doing but I never really was a fan. I was in a band that was always kind of being put in the same box as that lot. But I never felt that we actually were in the same box, but we probably were,\u201d Phil Collins said in an interview with\u00a0John Edginton\u00a0in 2014 (Transcribed by Rock and Roll Garage). He especially liked the first era of\u00a0Yes\u00a0with guitarist Peter Banks and brought that influence to Genesis when he joined them. \u201cI was very into the first line-up of Yes, the one with Peter Banks.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 id=\"he-continued\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"He_continued\"><\/span>He continued:<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI remember listening to them and loving the way they took other people\u2019s songs, \u2018Something\u2019s Coming\u2019, \u2018Every Little Thing\u2019 and did something different with them. (So) I thought, \u2018That\u2019s something I could do,\u2019 so I brought that influence into Genesis,\u201d he told\u00a0Prog\u00a0in 2016.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Collins used to go a lot to the legendary Marquee club in London where most of the greatest musicians from the United Kingdom played in the 1960s. He had the chance to see the Progressive Rock band fronted by Jon Anderson as he recalled in his autobiography \u201cNot Dead Yet\u201d, saying that he saw them when they were \u201cstill good\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cBeing a serious regular, and a serious fan, I am often in the right place at the right time. By following Bonham\u2019s progress, at the Marquee I see the first London show by The New Yardbirds, soon to be renamed Led Zeppelin. I witnessed some floor-shaking, maximum R&amp;B Who shows. I experienced Yes in their earliest days, around 1968, when they were good,\u201d the musician said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"phil-collins-almost-became-yes-drummer-twice\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Phil_Collins_almost_became_Yes_drummer_twice\"><\/span>Phil Collins almost became Yes\u2019 drummer twice<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>So many influential and successful bands came out of the United Kingdom in the 1960s that it is hard to realize that many of them were actually living in the same area and going to the same clubs. Collins first had the chance to meet Yes when they played for an audience of no more than 50 people. He heard they were looking for a drummer and spoke to Jon Anderson that night. But ultimately decided not to call them or audition.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWhen Yes played at the Marquee in front of fifty hardy souls, I go backstage during the intermission because I\u2019ve heard Bill Bruford is about to go back to Leeds University. Frontman Jon Anderson gives me his number, but I never bother to call. I don\u2019t know why, but I often wonder: how would my life have been if I\u2019d said yes to the Yes audition?\u201d he said in his autobiography. A few years later, in 1972, Collins offered to become Yes\u2019 drummer while he was already a member of Genesis. They ended up choosing Alan White, whom Phil felt was not the right choice for the band. \u201cI didn\u2019t like Alan White. When Bruford left, I rang up Jon Anderson and said: \u2018Let\u2019s do it!&#8217;\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 id=\"he-continued-2\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"He_continued-2\"><\/span>He continued:<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m always on these people\u2019s short list, I\u2019m always like 3rd on the list. He said: \u2018Great man, there was Mike Giles, Ian Weiss or you. (\u2026) I could really grow into the gig. But they had already sussed Mike out before the press had announced that Bruford had left. And I don\u2019t see Anderson that much to know what\u2019s going on unless I read about it. In principle, I had thought Alan White was wrong for the band. He\u2019s a sharp drummer, not a flat drummer,\u201d Phil Collins said in an interview with\u00a0Ken CK\u00a0in 1974.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Playing the drums in a Progressive Rock band wasn\u2019t an easy task and Collins\u2019 had to adapt his style. The tempo changes in the song were something difficult but he liked that kind of music, since he was a Buddy Rich and Yes fan. \u201c(What Genesis was doing when I joined) it was definitely out of the box of regular songs. They didn\u2019t seem to hold a tempo for very long. It went from section to section, which it was all interesting (but) a little strange to me. Because it was not the world I was kind of used to living in.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cAlthough some of my favorite pieces of music which was the Buddy Rich \u2018West Side Story\u2019 medley, the big band. I mean, they went from tempo changes to tempo changes. Yes, I was a big fan of the early Yes and they were doing all kinds of arrangements like that. But it wasn\u2019t something (I was used to playing),\u201d he told\u00a0John Edginton\u00a0in 2014.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"how-former-yes-drummer-bill-bruford-ended-up-playing-with-genesis\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"How_former_Yes_drummer_Bill_Bruford_ended_up_playing_with_Genesis\"><\/span>How former Yes drummer Bill Bruford ended up playing with Genesis<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/MyteedDgscc\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/MyteedDgscc<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After Peter Gabriel left Genesis in 1975, the remaining members tested a few singers. But they ultimately decided that Phil Collins was the right choice to become the new frontman. However, to make that possible and avoid having him sing while playing drums for the entire show, they needed to find a new drummer, who turned out to be former Yes member Bill Bruford. \u201cI started to look out for a drummer. (\u2026) Bill Bruford from Yes and I were great friends at that point. He was playing percussion with Brand X (My other band). It was kind of one of those things that people came and went.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cHe said: \u2018What happenned with the Genesis thing?\u2019 I said: \u2018Oh, looks like I\u2019m gonna be the singer. But I\u2019ve gotta find a drummer\u2019. He said: \u2018Why don\u2019t you ask me? I\u2019m not doing anything.\u2019 I said: \u2018I didn\u2019t think you would want to do it, having been in Yes. This was before he went into King Crimson, Asia and all that. Genesis and Yes had some kind of crossover fans, because we were both Progressive Rock, if you like,\u201d he told\u00a0John Edginton\u00a0in 2014 (Transcribed by Rock and Roll Garage).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bruford was in the band for a short period, only in 1976. He ended up appearing in the albums \u201cIn Concert\u201d (1977), in one track of \u201cSeconds Out\u201d (1977) and also in one song of \u201cThree Sides Live\u201d (1982).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Phil Collins was a crucial part of\u00a0Genesis, first as a drummer and later as the band\u2019s frontman, helping&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":20484,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-20483","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-musician"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - 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